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Alexi Pappas Is Bravey

The Rich Roll Podcast

CHAPTER

The Relationship With Pain

"i didn't feel like i mattered enough for my mum to stay. I now understand that not to be true," she says. "There is something, there's something cathortic about running and that relationship with pain." She adds: 'It's almost like performing an exorcism'

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Speaker 1
Like, i can go to the end of good pain
Speaker 2
and and what is that, you know, diving deeper into the relationship with pain, like, how does that act as a therapeutic for some of these issues?
Speaker 1
Well, it's not the feeling of pain that is therapy. It's the feeling, it's the, it's the feeling of mattering that i get as a result of enduring that pain. And that that's not been in entirely, i think healthy thing to chase, to chase, i want to matter, because i didn't feel like i mattered enough for my mum to stay. I now understand that not to be true. But for so much of my life, i think, i'd tell the olympics, i thought that my mission in life would be to not be like her, to be as far from her as possible, which i saw as being successful and y and the ways that i might have chased that were chasing these external goals, right?
Speaker 2
But through running did you you know, there is something, there's something cathortic about running and that relationship with pain that does work to kind of salve emotional wounds in a certain way, like in a kind of meditative way, like it's a way, it's almost like performing an exorcism, you know, f of unconscious, you know, things that are going on in youre in your awareness, that are dramatic.
Speaker 1
Ya, that's how you feel about it?

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