I think for me it was a couple things one you know you mentioned there are these large of great observational studies rapid immunological studies and their dime a dozen. It started to become clear with my own lab work that we shouldn't discount the end of one study and theend of one is you. I'll use two real world examples of two friends of ours so Mark Sisson is 69 our friend in Miami Rich roles 56 they're both an incredible shape they're incredibly fit. They could not be at more opposite extremes in terms of their approach approach nutrition.

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