I know that you have some real criticisms of the use of rubrics. I did want to mention that i have used rubrics to try to avoid something which is unwell done in petermsafro lonk, that comes an ians tis ruberixton. There's another extreme that we could go to in a positive way, which is to recognize that humans are really high resolution. And so to recognize that sometimes we just need to talk to students about what they're learning and not have expectations about what shape that conversation might take. Be open for surp great books don't create much space in them for surprise. The other thing that i would push back on