Are We Going to Focus Too Much on Baptism or Regeneration?

i want to start with you, doctor ortland the pastcela times. How would you answer people who are having this concern that is this view of baptism o regeneration just going to lead to a kind of empty sacramentalism? Doctor cooper: Can i saylike, i don't really like getting in front of the church. I'm shy. I've been saved. I don't need a ring. Maybe i think that's too materialistic, et cetera. As they're hearing those, ah, those analogies.