Patrick O'Shaughnessy: Sam Hinky is maybe the most actively wise person that I know who's not basically like, I only know Charlie Munger and of all at arm's length. "I feel like I learn a lot from how he works" He says there was conflict between him and Sam for a while but then it realized they both want the same thing. The two-way street to building a relationship with people in podcasting is called moddy relationships.

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