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S2E1 An Interview with Dr.Torrie Higgins on Flow

The Ultraspeaking Podcast

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The Work Feels Good When I Do

"I go wil idre tat, and i distract myself a ton," he says. "It's giing into that distraction that brings me back to zero." He tries to mitigate the distractions around him by leaving his phone out of arm's reach or putting it face down on the floor. 'When you stick with the thing, rite and actually make it through that struggle phase and get into flow, you you access this optimal state of consciousness where you have better ideas'

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