On this episode of The Psychology Podcast, physicist Sean Carroll chats with Scott Barry Kaufman, host of The Psychology Podcast, about his new book Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization, which is out today!

In this episode we discuss:

• Why studying humans is more complicated than studying the universe
• The importance of having humility as a psychologist
• How Scott’s new book Transcend builds on the work of Abraham Maslow
• How Maslow never actually drew a pyramid
• What Maslow actually meant by his “Hierarchy of Needs”
• The dialectical between security and growth
• Scott’s new metaphor for the hierarchy of needs
• How humans can be greater than the sum of their parts
• Scott’s revised integrated hierarchy of needs
• Why attachment styles are continuums, not types
• Why the need for belonging is not the same as the need for intimacy
• The effects of loneliness on our physical health
• The latest science of introversion
• Healthy self-esteem vs. narcissism
• The “growing tip”
• Psychological entropy
• The need for exploration and information seeking
• The more cosmic aspect of love, or “B-Love”
• The need for purpose
• Why self-actualization is not achievement
• The form of purpose that can lead to transcendence
• Why nothing is absolutely good or bad

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