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Today Josh speaks with Roy Steves about the chaotic life of the marketing and agency world.

Some of the topics we dive into are:

• The emotional rollercoaster of starting and maintaining a marketing agency.
• The issues of incentives, scope creep, and managing expectations with clients.
• Advice for young people getting into marketing and the agency world.
• What Roy and I would do differently if we had to start again.
• Escapism, imposter syndrome, and the trappings of success.
• Existential threats, and the importance of therapy for entrepreneurs.
• AI, machine learning, and the unexpected implications of complex systems.
• Crypto, Brave, and BAT.
• The future disruptions in digital marketing, social media, and the attention economy.
• And lots more.

Roy is an industry veteran, who over the last 20 years his career evolved from being a programmer to running several of his own businesses, being the VP of Digital Marketing and CMO of two prominent eCommerce brands, to ultimately co-founding StatBid in 2015.

StatBid is a boutique paid search and SEO agency, where Roy and his team work with direct-to-consumer eCommerce brands to optimize and scale their digital marketing.

Connect with Roy:

• Website: StatBid.com
• LinkedIn: @RoySteves

Music by Kirby Johnston – check out his band Aldaraia on Spotify