The Importance of Getting State Funding for a Project

Heavenly Bodies is the first time we just committed to it like we actually turned down client work which was wild at the time. VIX screen and then and then PlayStation yeah I think it's like a classic narrative of you know like you're basically ready to throw in the towel but got it across the line. The fun was saving grace that is also I guess it's like hard to disentangle but like a little chicken and egg so like definitely I can see like getting that funding is the one of the big things that propels the kind of bigger and bigger next steps.