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In this episode, Jordan sits down with Mo Gawdat, the former Chief Business Officer of Google X and author of the international bestseller Solve for Happy. Mo shares his remarkable journey from corporate success to personal transformation, a path shaped by the profound lessons he learned through both immense achievement and devastating loss.

Mo reflects on his early life, driven by a relentless pursuit of success, and how the heartbreaking loss of his son, Ali, led him to reevaluate the meaning of happiness and fulfilment. He reveals the origins of his "happiness equation," a blend of logic and heart that has empowered millions to reframe their perspective on life. With candid stories and profound insights, Mo explains why happiness is our default state and how unhappiness arises from the stories we tell ourselves.

The conversation explores Mo’s belief that material success can’t bring lasting joy and the liberating power of detachment. He also addresses burnout and the toll of modern stress, sharing practical strategies for shifting focus, breaking free from harmful habits, and creating a life aligned with purpose and clarity.

Jordan and Mo discuss the balance between striving for success and finding peace in the present, offering valuable lessons for anyone seeking to navigate life with greater awareness and intention. This is a conversation about resilience, purpose, and the enduring power of love and connection.