This chapter of the podcast episode explores the contradictions within incel ideology. It discusses how incels desire a relationship with women but also harbor resentment and hate towards them. The chapter examines the Madonna horror complex, which is the belief that women are either perfect and angelic or complete horrors. It delves into the troubling mindset of incels, which can lead to mental health issues. Additionally, it touches on the experiences of being ghosted, friend-zoned, and catfished by incels while addressing the reasons behind such occurrences.

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