Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum catch up with Andy Naselli to discuss his recent longform essay for Christ Over All in which Andy provides a taxonomy of views on religion and government.

Timestamps

Introduction - 00:44

Where Did Andy Naselli Begin Studying the Issues of Political Theology? – 02:55

Naselli’s Internship With American Reformer 04:14 

Dr. Wellum’s Take on Naselli’s Article – 05:21

Defining ‘Religion’ and ‘Government’ and Why Those Terms are Better for this Conversation - 07:16

Notable Things in The First and Second Views - 10:00

Unpacking the Third View (Classical Liberalism) - 13:46

Knowing About John Rawls - 16:08

The Fourth View – 17:20

View Four and Five are Not Christian Nationalists - 21:12

First and Second Tables of the Law Applying Today with Views Four & Five - 22:06

Did the ‘Baptist Project’ Require Christendom? - 23:34

The Fifth View and the Magisterial Reformers - 27:00

What About the In-between Views? - 34:25

The Sixth View, Rushdoony, and Islam- 37:26

The Seventh View: Government Enforcing Religion - 42:16 

Reflections After Research - 46:22

Where Should We Start With Political Theology? - 51:21

What to Do Right Now? - 57:00

Final Thoughts – 1:01:38

Outro - 1:03:51

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