What do a McDonald’s, a rusted van, and an Appalachian Trail record have in common? Warren Doyle. On this episode of the Free Outside Podcast I am joined by the legend Warren Doyle — educator, endurance icon, and Appalachian Trail philosopher — for an unfiltered, no-bobblehead conversation about FKTs, culture clashes, and the soul of long-distance hiking.

Warren recounts his 1973 AT speed record (before we even called them FKTs), discusses the evolution of trail culture, and shares stories of creeks, canteens, creek showers, and a boot gone rogue. We explore the role of endurance vs. speed, why “tempo” matters more than terrain, and what today’s hikers can learn from the past — if they’re willing to listen.

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Plus: reflections on Liz “Mercury” Durstine, Tara Dower, Scott Jurek, and the future of the ATC. Oh, and we discuss why “Don’t bring the world with you” might just be the best trail advice you’ll hear this year.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Legends

02:55 Warren Doyle's Journey and Motivation

05:59 Planning and Preparation for the Appalachian Trail

09:00 Challenges Faced on the Trail

12:01 The Emotional Journey and Sense of Purpose

14:56 Endurance vs. Speed: The Philosophy of Hiking

17:55 The Impact of Media and Public Perception

21:08 The Evolution of Endurance Records

23:44 The Future of the Appalachian Trail

26:36 The Role of Community and Support

29:29 Lessons from Liz Durstine Mercury's Journey

32:28 Comparing Northbound and Southbound Hikes

35:31 The Importance of Sleep and Recovery

38:22 Navigating the Trail's Terrain and Challenges

41:21 The Cultural Shift of the Appalachian Trail

44:07 Final Thoughts and Advice for Future Hikers

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