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How Do You Get Your Foot in the Door?
I was really trying to get my foot in the door as a creator of any kind this before creator was a job title in this industry and try to get noticed by telling a story. I wanted to shore up my documentary production ability and just do more side gigs to make some money see if I could go freelance whatever. It sounds like then this was dot freelance work but it really sounds like this was kind of a shift right because now doing post production is important but actually making the documentaries a different skill so they are developing at that point. You were going through some personal challenges you were experiencing a quieter depression tell us what was going on in your life at that time.