Grief is just this huge sort of untidy thing that our culture wants to tidy up and package up and tighten up. A great example of that is Elizabeth Kubler Ross's stages of grief. That was never meant to be for grief, as you well know, right? I mean, this was for dying. And yet we have made this like, well, wait, so if I'm at stage five, you know, I'm almost over it. So can't get to remembrance without going to the grief.

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