There's a certain kind of fear or sadness associated with accepting the idea that you're just simply not going to master acting, songwriting, and skating while working retail. "Accepting defeat" doesn't mean doing nothing, right? That just kind of doing whatever feels right in the moment. When you're no longer scrambling to do an impossible amount, a literally impossible amount, that's when you sort of become empowered to make wise decisions about what you want to do," he says.

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