The Different Kinds of Excellence in Plato

Mark O'Mara: In Plato, you can never do something for the sake of it being bad. You would have multiple goods in Nietzsche that were potentially incompatible. They just simply aren't incompatible with one another, he says. He asks if people who are abused become poor and character; isn't justice human virtue? That seems counterintuitive to our vision of a virtuous child or saint as innocent but not harmed by injustice. And we wonder if this is an issue of translation somehow, why is that counterintuitive?