I didn't go to college or culinary school either. I tried applying to a couple of them and they all denied me. It gets to a point where you're like, do I really need my parents to spend $100,000 for me to go to culinary school? My mom hasn't had anyone on her side that's really gotten the chance to do that. And so it was kind of tough for a little bit for her,. But she let, you know, she, they didn't fight me on it, which was cool.

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