collagen will be better for those ligaments yeah and that's why a lot of by the way like athletes and bodybuilders will use these like growth hormone saccreta gogs. getting it after a workout is as useful i heard matt Fraser who's like the greatest crossfit ever he does that oh reallyYeah but you would be a fan for other reasons i imagineyeah i'm a fan I mean for both like i think it's great for brain health come on your cardiovascular health um yeah so many so many things just purging toxins in the sweatoh yeah  i feel like that makes me feel detoxed too'