Dr. Seymour: I wonder if people could just, like the simple metric that you use. Just check in with themselves every day, maybe in the evening. How stressed am I today? Scale of one to 10. It's just, I think we need to make this sort of idea of stress more concrete for people so that they can modify it. But I also want to highlight a project that you're working on as we close the podcast because we've talked so much about this intrusion and infiltration of the pharma industry into medicine. Asim: So I'm co-producing my second documentary. The first one I did with the same partner was Donal O'Neill, who's

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