So you have the person reflect on why they hold that level of certainty and not more not less. So if they let's say I'm a seven and opposing gay marriage you say well why aren't you an eight? And then that gets them to generate arguments on one side right so it creates a completely different kind of conversational dynamic. Would you be up for doing quick role play where I'll play the role of someone with a belief when you kind of see your we could do it if you want to do something neutral excuse me  I could be a flat arthur yeah we could do flat earth or you could do if you want, but we can do flat earth let's do

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