The Utilitarian Principle of Pain

Some people might see certain forms of suffering as a good thing intrinsically, if they are of a certain kind. I disagree that utilitarians will hold that view, but i don't think you'd have to be utilitarian to hold that view. The crucial distinction is between whether pain, they say, is intrinsically bad, and whether it is instrumentally bad. And i think it's always going to be intrinsically bad. Buti just don't think that ays anything about the intrinsic disvalue of pain.