We're referring to natural athletes. That is people who for whatever reason, either because they're not taking any prescription drugs or maybe if they are whose levels of steroid hormones do not exceed the normal reference range values. So in your example, if you're doing your chin ups, well, would the biceps count? There's no exact rule there because there could be technique issues. The position of which your hands are on the barber, a wider grip, more narrow grip, it's going to change muscle use. And now we're not even talking about indirect activation of a secondary.

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