When should someone leave the arena versus pivot? Isn't that the whole thing right there? So I can give you the objective answer. The objective answer is when your expected value goes negative and comparison to other things that you could be doing. When we start anything, there's some sort of expected value that you can calculate. We think about quitting is leaving the court. Winding is still quitting. If you were developing game never ending and then you pivot to Slack, that's quitting. You quit developing game neverending and you started developing Slack.

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