i'm going to ask you to define courage in a minute. But i want to start with basically the end of one of my favorite books of all time, which is east of eden by john steinbeck. And so i was wondering if you could just, you know, share with us kind of what you how you end the book around sort of the pivotal idea that ends east ofEden. Yes.

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