When you launched c o action, had a lot of hopes about what the impact was going to be. Since george floyd's killing, we have seen more progress in the board room around diversity and representation than we did in a ten year period. I think you're also seeing more improvement in the executive suites. The next big challenge is on the talent attraction and the retention piece, and the rest of organizations. It doesn't have to be a moral decision to be a clear business decision? Yes, i don't think so. Like there's clear things that with our values, but it's about having the discussion.

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