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#531: Henry Shukman — Zen, Tools for Awakening, Ayahuasca vs. Meditation, Intro to Koans, and Using Wounds as the Doorway

The Tim Ferriss Show

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Is It Common for People to Get a Taste of Non Ordinary State?

When i think of your experience at 19 on the beach, that distinguishes you from a lot of people in the sense that you had this spontaneous experience of non duality. And i'm wondering if or how common it is for people to get an appetizer or a taste of these non ordinary states. Is it common that people have that experience relatively quickly in their practice? Or is it something they have to cut across their fingers and hope for long down the road? Honestly, it's a bit of both. Coans are weird. They can actually trigger profound experiences. Who knows when they really can. We're not going to go there yet.

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