I write books, but I don't often read them cover to cover and I have a podcast too. There are things that as present as I am with you and my other guests, there are inevitably things that I miss. People come on here when they have something to say when they're brilliant. So I get value. Like I've listening to them more than once. Some people learn better through voice, some learn better through reading,. some learn better visually, some learning better with their bodies - it's just different styles. We tend to underappreciate it.