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And then Joe Lewis can become, I
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believe, the first big African American hero to the whole country.
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These are huge things. But some of the greatest boxers who ever lived, maybe the greatest boxers who ever lived according to many people, never got a chance at the title, both for racial reasons because there was a time when some of these white boxers would fight black boxers, but not just that, but because they were so good and in boxing, you can ditch people who are good. Look at a guy like Charlie Burley or Holman Williams. These are guys
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of the great boxers ducked
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black boxers, two Sugar Ray Robinson,
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and somebody suggested he fight, I think it was Charlie Burley and not Holman Williams. He said, I thought you were my
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friend, right? Don't tell me to box that guy. So what ended up happening is
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these boxers that nobody would fight would often have to fight
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each other over and over again. You know, you want to fight?
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Well, Charlie Burley is still available because no one will fight him. So Williams and Burley would fight a bunch of times and you want to talk about steel sharpening steel. It's very possible you bring one of those champions, uncrowned champions, never allowed to fight for the title champions. No one wanted a piece of them champions back from 40, 50, 60, 70 years ago, and no one would want a piece of them today either.
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