Podcasting - Is There a Moment Early on When You Feel Like You're Not Doing This?

There was never a sense that this was a vocation or a business like it was literally like me having a creative impulse and feeling a little bit stymied on this island where I felt disconnected and uncertain about what my next move would be. Like we were just freewheeling it and having fun and did it for a long time before we monetized it in any meaningful way. It's really inspiring to look back and see like that trajectory for me. And also as a fan of podcasting interested in this medium and wanted to explore the possibilities there.