Sally Kohn: I have a weird relationship with goals in that for me for certain goals, I get very motivated by the pursuit of numbers. But when I have a goal to work towards like I want to hit five million subscribers on my YouTube channel, which is outside of my control, at that point it starts to feel very demotivating. She says we need to focus more on process goals and what gets in the way of our goal pursuit.Kohn: We can talk about procrastination but first let's talk about productivity. Let's go over to the Gully pastor and ask him if he has any tips or advice you'd like to share.

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