Patreon.com Slash Con Layering

So, patreon.com slash con lagory go there, show your support. My two guests today both happen to be pledging the highest tier. I do have to note that is not a way that you can get your way on the show. And it's just that they also happen to be very good con layers that I wanted to talk to. So again, I'm thrilled to be the subject of a full disclosure. If you went back in time and told 18 year old Zeke that he would someday be the subjectof a full disclosure on the con like podcast, he would just be very tickled. All right. We're off!