I'm Not Getting Them to Buy and I Fail

"I was coming in before context on right. So I was, I met Furcon in, he's the guy who started founders,. I met him in February at a crypto conference in Denver." "He basically invited me to work out of the office. And so I came earlier when this floor didn't even exist". 'That turned into another app idea and while we were working on that, we started the podcast' "'You got to be kind to founders. They took a few swings.' That one failed too," she said. ''We both are failures.'"