It's like trying to be the police officer at central command that keeps track of all these groups and you have multiple groups operating. You can literally follow its progress in 861 some of these groups burn paris now paris is not as we said this great city during this time period it's more of a town but it was hit before right? It sounds specifically bad and charles the bald who is the king of that region finally does something about it in the next couple of years he has a bad reputation for how he handles vikings. He prohibits the sale of weapons and armor to these people also because the franks make some of the best stuff if not the best stuff in this