Tyler Little: My reading of Gerard suggests that we do have a physical desire. He says once we calm down our metaphysical desire, we are able to access it. The logic of metaphysical desire is to secure an object associated with a model who we consider to have a heightened degree of being. Tyler Little: We want to be distant from objects associated with models that have a deficiency of being. And all we have to do to be authentic is to leave the group, right, to peel back these social layers. All I think of romanticism is that it confuses difference for authenticity.
When the 20-year-old overachiever Johnathan Bi's first startup crashed and burned, he headed to a Zen retreat in the Catskills to "debug himself." He discovered René Girard and his mimetic theory--the idea that imitation is a key and often unconscious driver of human behavior. Listen as entrepreneur and philosopher Bi shares with EconTalk host Russ Roberts what he learned from Girard and Girard's insights into how we meet our primal need for money, fame, and power. The conversation includes the contrasts between economics and Girard's perspective.