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The Importance of Being Independent
I really think I really do think 40 was the number. Even in 30, most guys were like still like, all right, as long as they didn't like completely go off the rails eating and stuff. And it wasn't until these last few years that I really see, even myself, the listeners who have remembered me telling the story where I jumped out of the back of my truck,. That was a really rude awakening for me. It just kind of blew my mind on how much I lost that in that short time.