Sally Kohn: There are different routes between being in-house, freelance and agency. She says there's not enough attention on how awesome it can be to get the right in-house role. The upside of that is you can throw your weight around like crazy as a consultant, she says.Kohn: While Stappet is doing well, I could very easily imagine being just as happy finding the right VP of e-com where I wasn't doing what I'm doing now.
Today Josh speaks with Roy Steves about the chaotic life of the marketing and agency world.
Some of the topics we dive into are:
- The emotional rollercoaster of starting and maintaining a marketing agency.
- The issues of incentives, scope creep, and managing expectations with clients.
- Advice for young people getting into marketing and the agency world.
- What Roy and I would do differently if we had to start again.
- Escapism, imposter syndrome, and the trappings of success.
- Existential threats, and the importance of therapy for entrepreneurs.
- AI, machine learning, and the unexpected implications of complex systems.
- Crypto, Brave, and BAT.
- The future disruptions in digital marketing, social media, and the attention economy.
- And lots more.
Roy is an industry veteran, who over the last 20 years his career evolved from being a programmer to running several of his own businesses, being the VP of Digital Marketing and CMO of two prominent eCommerce brands, to ultimately co-founding StatBid in 2015.
StatBid is a boutique paid search and SEO agency, where Roy and his team work with direct-to-consumer eCommerce brands to optimize and scale their digital marketing.
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Music by Kirby Johnston – check out his band Aldaraia on Spotify