"It's just easier to do what you do and put your work out than to super super aggressively marketed and risk like over promising and under delivering," he says. "I wake up at 5 30 in the morning and I shoot out of bed like a rocket because I'm so goddamn excitedBecause every day people are like yo what you're doing is impacting it's like helping me build a business or start a businessor it's fucking will help me motivate a team"

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