How to Start Conversations With VCs and Treasurors

Do you think going through that process and having those conversations would have been much harder if you didn't have a track record of already having had three successful exits? Like if somebody else was trying to do that today and they didn't have that background? That's a good question. I think it definitely helped me for sure. There's a little bit of aspect of I could call people, have a network, I could, you know, and they they're going to take my call, things like that. But I've seen it also. And there's some of those folks that wouldn't have taken my call that they took. They took his.