Highlights from this week’s conversation include:

• Brendan’s background and journey to Groundswell (2:25)
• The impact of generative AI on sales reps and product building (5:38)
• Lead sourcing challenges (12:22)
• Salesforce as a data model (14:30)
• The need for guardrails in building applications around sales (24:37)
• The question of interfaces in the layers of Salesforce (26:11)
• A UI solution for sales and marketing (30:45)
• The future of logic and machine learning models (37:11)
• The battle for data ownership (39:36)
• Actioning data and the role of refineries (46:03)
• The potential for decentralized systems using generative AI (46:59)
• Product building for the future (57:47)
• Building trust in data tools (59:10)
• The era of innovation (1:09:20)
• Final thoughts and takeaways (1:10:43)

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