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Katherine Morgan Schafler on perfectionism’s surprising gifts

Hello Monday with Jessi Hempel

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What Brings You Pleasure?

Sally Kohn: I want to talk about pleasure. Where does pleasure fit into our lives and how do we cultivate it? She says, "We should cultivate it because frankly, we're not going to be alive forever" And she suggests that instead of making plans to feel alive later, we might consider feeling alive now.

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