I always think about their tax deal as being wrapped around an insurance company and like there's something called a captive insurance company. So that money is then post tax and now you have this insurance company that you can go essentially make investments out of. And so like that's what I mean Go look at all of Sequoia's partners and their endowments or their insurance companies or their foundations or their whatever they are. Really listen to that. The richest companies or the richest founders in the world that have ever existed. They own those same structures they own endowments foundations insurance companies and they basically pay tax once if they pay tax at all but they pay tax once where they just go

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