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Zumis - I'm the Charge of the Culture
Ivan Shannard doesn't want people to buy a lot of his stuff. He's totally vertical. I could say I'm going to be carbon neutral and you're going to pay an extra 10 bucks for every unit of clothing in our stores. And because how consumerism works and how markets works and economies work, it would be a very noble thing to do, but you wouldn't be able to sustain that. We are so multicultural as Hispanic, Black, Asian, Indigenous, pretty much 50, 50 men, women,. Very welcoming in place for LGBTQ and talking about all that. Because that's America, I'm really proud of that.