Menn, we're actually listening to each other. We want the conversation ultimately to be that it's not a conversation of you pushing and then pushing back. Even if you disagree, maybe you're working together to resolve that disagreement. You have the honesty is actually what makes this work. If you fake any of this, it leaves a this domain. It goes into coercion, it goes into manipulation. Just by actually caring and being truly honest and transparent and curious and compassionate,.