Speaker 2
Im so if the idea is that we're going to bring in somebody to fix everything, sure, that might happen, butit also the cost of that might be civil war, or, you know, we might have to
Speaker 3
have an external
Speaker 1
enemy to get us to that point. And so i'm not sure it's a nearer term solution than what i'm talking about. Again, i don't really think either these solutions going to work out, so i'm not going to argue too strong for my version, right? I mean, that kind of makes it, that that of part makes it difficult to push back. Again, just say, lik, what is the positive case for that rege? Do we restrict it back to property owners? Like,
Speaker 2
what? Well, the positive case for democracy's easy. You start, you
Speaker 1
start with information systems.
Speaker 2
Like, you start with, like, like, the biggest thing that you could do right now is you develop a new kind of curatorial system and information delivery system that allows
Speaker 1
us to kind of cool tempers, have people process information in larger trunks, stuff like that. I, ike, what i'm talking about would require that. And
Speaker 3
that's why i don't
Speaker 1
think it's plausible, im. I mean, ye, red, no, that's sound so much more difficult. Andthinks doing a cukoo, sure, ri these reds is doing a coo just requires, like, taking, taking control of ultimately, military power. Ray doesn't it doesn't require, like, engineering an never before seen, like, miraculous socialedia system ere like communication. Ye. I just, i think, from what i know about, from what my personal experience reporting and stuff. I within both, like higher levels if, like the elete systems, the regime, whatever you n call it, but also, just like the social tensions and ananimuss within the country. Like, i think the idea that that person comes in and has a level of popular support and institutional support that allows them to do all the stuff that we're talking about them may be
Speaker 1
think that exists. Um, and i think that the context is really different than it once was. I think, i think the system is much less stable. And i think, like belief in the project, like the worth of saving the project of this republic, is not as deep as it once was. Um, in the various other times that some one like curtis would say that the republic has been refounded. Um, and by dint of that a, i'm just not convinced that like, the firm hand coming in would actually be able to exercise power in as effective a way as a lot of people think they wouldahathat. That's my critique of that. And so you could, you could easily end up with decades of chaos because someone did a coop. Um, and i think people