What characters want versus what they do

Kelly talks to legendary screenwriter John August (“Big Fish,” “Charlie and The Chocolate Factory,” who co-hosts the “Scriptnotes” podcast with Craig Mazin (“Chernobyl,” “The Last of Us.”). They have a new book: “Scriptnotes: A Book About Screenwriting and Things That Are interesting to Screenwriters.” 

“Be passionate in agreement. Be dispassionate in disagreement.” 

“As writers, we are emotional chemists.” 

“Every time you sit down and write a screenplay, you’re world-building.”