Viking raiders and tried to make the distinction with them between traders and raiders they might be baffled by the whole thing right are you a traitor or a raider yes regardless what it means. They certainly get the word when the Frankish Empire begins to be undermined after Charlemagne's death I mean to give us an idea there is stuff going on almost certainly without knowing things there's almost certainly raiding going on at beneath the level that gets noticed in the sources but listen to a standard timeline of Viking activities in the west up to this time right so we'll catch us up on what's going on. The area around Ireland and the British Isles that are the hardest hit areas and