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Zumiez: Tom Campion

How I Built This with Guy Raz

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JC Pennies - What Made You Think Like That?

I didn't like how it looked and how they managed without writing a management plan down guy. It was always, oh my God, what is the manager going to think? And the manager told me what he thought, put your suit on and look like you're in management. You know, we both had experience in men's department. Even at that point, I wasn't managing that. We, you know, and then you looked at the market, what did the market have and you knew what was going on. Especially in young men's teenage because that's where it flips.

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