Your work is involved with helping people break that link in the chain. What actually happens when you're engaging these different kinds of difficult or pathogenic beliefs, however you want to say it? And as a way, kind of into that classic question that we get is some vers of, well, if i'm mindful of my sadness, won't that just make me more sad? It's a fair question. You know, people don't want to get too close in contacting things that make them feel miserable. E, and that sentiment, in some ways, whith you're inviting.

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