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#88 Diana Espir on How to Stay Relevant in Pop Culture in a Social Media World

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The Importance of Being Vulnerable

I don't think there's a rule because if they're well, we'd all be famous. I feel like there's an aspect of Rihanna that feels she's above it,. She probably has PTSD for the whole thing that happened with Chris Brown and things. But I think Ariana Grande doesn't feel like she'sabove it. And she will in a very media trained way because she has to open up when something needs to be addressed. It'll be in her music. It's going to be cryptic. Everything she's going to do is going to be successful."

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